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Savvy Aviator Newsletter 2005-10 September 27, 2005

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Savvy Owner Notebook:
Right Engine, Wrong Cylinders

    The new owner of an older Cessna 182 was
    delighted that his airplane had such exceptional
    performance ... until the first annual inspection,
    when he discovered why.

Seminar Calendar
    During the next 12 months, Mike will be doing
    seminars in Denver, Frederick, Atlanta, Phoenix,
    Los Angeles, Charlotte, Daytona Beach, Houston,
    Memphis, Las Vegas, San Diego, and Salt Lake
    City.

New Articles and Web Site Additions
    Mike's latest AVweb column discusses how to
    troubleshoot problems with your aircraft.

Alert:
  • Last call for Frederick MD (FDK) and Atlanta GA (FFC) seminars! If you're interested in attending Mike's upcoming seminars in Frederick MD on October 22-23 or in Atlanta GA on October 29-30, you need to sign up RIGHT NOW!
     
  • Mike has seminars scheduled over the next 12 months in Denver, Frederick, Atlanta, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Charlotte, Daytona Beach, Houston, Memphis, Las Vegas, San Diego, and Salt Lake City. Most of Mike's seminars this year have been sold out well in advance, so if you're interested in attending any of these classes, it would be a good idea to sign up pronto.
Savvy Owner Notebook:
Right Engine, Wrong Cylinders

The new owner of an older Cessna 182 was delighted that his airplane had such exceptional performance ... until the first annual inspection, when he discovered why.

          by Mike Busch, A&P/IA (mike.busch@savvyaviator.com)

Mike BuschEvery month, I correspond with dozens of aircraft owners about various problems they're having with their aircraft, and do my best to help them troubleshoot and resolve those problems. Most of the problems I deal with are relatively routine and unremarkable, but once in awhile I encounter one that is particularly unusual and interesting. One of those came my way this month.

When the new owner of an older Cessna 182 first contacted me, he declined to reveal his name and identified himself only as "A Distraught Skylane Owner":

"Mr. Busch, I have a situation that has come up during the first (owner assisted) annual of my airplane and I could really use your advice. Please excuse the anonymity of this letter, as you read on I think you'll understand why (for now) I wish to remain anonymous. I am the relatively new owner of a 60's vintage 182, one of the first years of the wider-body Skylanes with the O-470-R engine. After having rented for a number of years, I finally fulfilled my dream of aircraft ownership; this is my first airplane.

Cessna 182"I purchased the airplane from a partnership on my home field. This particular partnership consisted of two members: an A&P mechanic (who did all the work on the airplane) and one other partner (who was generally not involved in maintenance of the aircraft). I was told that the partnership was dissolving because one of the owners was getting out of flying.

"At the time of purchase, the aircraft was advertised as approximately 4,500 hours total time, just 25 SMOH, recent paint and interior, and adequate avionics. I test-flew the airplane, found that the plane flew hands-off, and I was very impressed with the performance of the new engine. I decided to buy the plane, and paid the owners asking price. I asked around the field and determined that the A&P owner had a good reputation and had owned the airplane for more than 11 years. The logs were complete. There did not appear to be any corrosion issues or other serious issues. All in all, I felt reasonably comfortable about this plane. In addition, I was able to sub-let the hangar from the sellers after the purchase--since there's a 7 to 10 year hangar waiting list at my field, this was a huge plus.

"The first few months I had some issues to contend with (flap problem, breakers, tach, etc.), but nothing really serious. I put a few hours on the airplane and did a few oil changes. I was very happy about the plane's performance. At one time I was in club with a 182, so I had some prior experience in a P-model Skylane. My airplane seemed to outperform the P-model 182 in every respect. I was seeing 1,500 fpm climb rates in the wintertime and 1,000 to 1,200 fpm in the summer, and cruise speeds in the 140-knot range. I attributed this to the lighter weight of my old girl vs. the P-model.

"About six weeks ago I downed the aircraft for its annual first annual inspection on my watch. I'm doing an owner-assisted annual, and I chose not to use the prior owner's IA for the annual. Instead, I elected to work with an IA on the field that I've known for a number of years, mostly through other aircraft-owner friends. The inspection phase went very well. Except for a crack in one aileron, the IA found no major airframe squawks. The powerplant inspection went even better: compressions were all 76/80 or better. The engine is about 75 SMOH and oil consumption has been almost nil.

"I gave my maintenance logbooks to my IA this past weekend. He and I were supposed to get together on Sunday to go over the AD's. Unfortunately, he had a family emergency and had to go out of town for a week. I had some things to finish up on my end and I figured it would give me an opportunity to do just that.

REM40E spark plug"One of my remaining tasks was spark plug maintenance, so I pulled, cleaned, inspected, and gapped the plugs. They looked good, but I wanted to order an extra set just to have on hand. That's when I noticed something odd: The spark plugs in my engine were Champion RHB32Es, but according to TCM Service Bulletin SIL03-2B the correct plugs for my engine are RHM40E, REM38S or RHM38S.

"I was puzzled about why my engine seemed to have the wrong spark plugs. I called a friend and we went over all the specs and numbers together. On a hunch from my friend (who always wondered about my engine because my Skylane can almost keep up with his Mooney), we went out to my hangar to have a look at my cylinders. Sure enough, the spark plug holes were about 5/16-inch deeper than they would have been for the short-reach spark plugs specified for my engine by TCM. We looked at the jugs some more, and now theorized that the prior A&P owner had installed IO-470 or O-470-U jugs and high-compression pistons on my O-470-R.

"My Mooney-owner friend asked the A&P who overhauled his motor come out to have a look at my cylinders. This engine builder's opinion was that they were IO-470 or O-470-U jugs. We've also figured that the O-470 jugs with high compression pistons would probably yield an additional 20 HP. This would certainly account for my excellent performance.

"Now, what should I do? It looks like I was sold an unairworthy airplane. Should I approach the prior owner about this? I really don't want to have to bear the cost of a full top overhaul to make this right. I feel like the prior owner misrepresented this airplane. While I don't feel as thought the airplane is unsafe, I can't in good conscience sell this airplane to someone else or ask my IA to sign off the annual inspection. I'm thinking about asking the prior owner to purchase the airplane back from me, or at least asking him to do the top at his expense. Could I possibly get field approval on these cylinders?

"Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ... A Distraught Skylane Owner"

Two things struck me upon reading this owner's email: First, this first-time aircraft owner must be remarkably astute to have discovered this discrepancy after one A&P and two IAs missed it. Second, I was duly impressed by the owner's obvious desire to make things right and legal rather than to look the other way or sweep things under the rug.

How do you handle a situation like this?

After giving this rather unusual and interesting predicament some thought, I responded to the anonymous owner:

"Dear Distraught, I think the first thing I would to is to seek out the IA who signed off the prior annual inspection and try to determine if that IA was aware of the non-standard pistons and cylinders and whether or not he knows of any valid approval basis for that alteration.

Aircraft engine"If the IA professes ignorance (and thereby admits to approving the airplane for return to service after performing an annual inspection last year), I would suggest asking the IA to accompany you to confront the previous owner (the A&P who performed the overhaul), and ask him what approval basis he has for the alteration and where that alteration is documented.

"It seems to me that the best possible outcome would be for one of these two mechanics (the former owner and his IA) to come up with an approval basis for the alteration and to clean up the paperwork to make the airplane legal. I wouldn't be too optimistic about this scenario coming to fruition, but it should be pursued first because you never can tell -- there are quite a lot of STC'd modifications for the Cessna 182 and the O-470.

"If the A&P/owner concedes that he knows of no approval basis for the alteration, then I believe it would be fair of you to ask him to remove the unapproved alteration by replacing the nonstandard cylinders and pistons with standard ones and signing off the work. In fairness, I think you should offer him the opportunity to perform the work himself and to receive the low-time cylinders and pistons back. This way, his net cost is substantially reduced and you wind up what you want: a legal airplane.

"I would NOT get the FAA involved at this point (or permit your current IA to do so) until you've made every possible attempt to resolve the problem privately along the lines I've outlined above. The A&P/owner and the IA who signed off the prior annual will be well aware that you are likely to report this situation to the FSDO unless it is resolved to your satisfaction, and will probably be highly motivated to get the problem resolved quickly and quietly. The implicit threat of you going to the FAA will work better for you than actually doing so.

"I would be EXTREMELY interested in hearing how this works out, so I hope you'll drop me an email and let me know. If I can be of further assistance, do not hesitate to ask.

"Best...Mike

"P.S. I admire you for deciding to "come clean" on this with your IA, knowing full well that he probably would not have picked up on the discrepancy had you not brought it to his attention. You are my kind of aircraft owner. Congratulations!"

The owner takes command

A few weeks passed and I didn't hear anything from the owner. Finally my curiosity overcame me, so I sent him a one-line email asking him for an update. Here's the owner's reply:

"Hi Mike, my name is Fred and at this stage there's probably no reason for me to remain anonymous, as I've put all the cards on the table (so to speak) with the A&P. Here's an update on where I am with my situation.

"I got my logs back and last night I did some additional research. Here is what I found out: The A&P former owner installed onto the O-470-R case six overhauled CermiNil cylinder assemblies from ECi, part number ECN646144CN. The piston part number was AEC648029. I have all the yellow tags for these parts and there is a logbook entry indicating that these parts were used in the overhaul. Looking at the ECi Class Reference Manual, it looks as though he did in fact install high-compression cylinders and pistons appropriate for a O-470-U or IO-470 (class 70A); the O-470-R calls for a cylinder class of 68A (642410 cylinder and 646263 piston). Interestingly enough, his logbook entry indicates RHM40E plugs, which would be appropriate for a normal O-470-R ...b ut these were not the plugs that were actually installed (which discrepancy predicated my research into this whole situation).

"Following your advice, I confronted the A&P former owner about this issue. At first he was very defensive about it. He pulled out the overhaul manual to try and convince me that the cylinders and pistons he installed were the right ones for the engine, but my documentation was pretty clear and convincing, and I ticked and tied everything with a colored pencil (plus I had already reviewed the info with my IA).

"After the A&P former owner's initial denial wore off, his first suggestion was that he would pull the jugs, send them off to the machine shop, and those same jugs would come back with a different part number. We argued about that for a while. He called his friend  at a local engine shop, put me on the phone with him, and after I asked a few questions his friend basically ended up agreeing with my position that this was not a viable solution to this problem.

"At this point, I offered the A&P former owner three options: (1) come up with an approval basis for the high-compression cylinders and pistons; (2) replace the existing cylinders and pistons with the correct ones; or (3) buy back the airplane. He immediately rejected the third option. I gave him some time to look into the first option (finding a certification basis), but he was unsuccessful just as you suspected.

Cylinder assembly"That left option two: replace the cylinders and pistons. What he's currently offered me are chrome exchange cylinders from a local shop that he deals with frequently. There are two things about this that I don't like:

"1. I don't like the idea of exchange chrome cylinders. When I purchased the airplane it had low-time (<25 hour) ECi overhauled CermiNil cylinders. Now these are still overhauled exchange cylinders, but at least they come with a warranty.

"2. I don't trust that I'll get quality cylinders. Who's to say that his buddy over at the cylinder shop does not just throw a yellow tag on any old cylinder? There is something about the whole thing that makes me suspicious.

"I'd like to give A&P former owner the benefit of the doubt, but based on how he's acted so far I fear I'm being played a fool. I asked him to price what it would cost me to go with new Millenniums instead (offering to pay any difference) and it's been over a week and he can't give me a price. I had a friend call the shop and ask for a price on the same cylinders and he had an email quote from the shop within 12 hrs.

"I'm a little unsure on what to do next. How would you proceed?

"Thanks ... Fred""

Impressive work, Fred. If this isn't an example of what I've been calling "owner in command," I don't know what is.

Some final advice

I responded to Fred's report:.

"Hi Fred, it sounds to me as if you've handled everything exactly right so far. Nice job!

"I think the "option two" offer that the A&P has made to you is reasonable. Having said that, I don't blame you a bit for wanting to go with new jugs instead of chromed exchange jugs of unknown heritage. I would estimate the difference at roughly $600/cylinder or $3,600 total. If you offer to pay the $3,600 difference, it's hard for me to see how the A&P can refuse -- especially if you make it clear that this is your best and final offer, and that if he refuses the next things he'll get are a demand letter from your attorney and a Letter Of Investigation from the FSDO.

"I'm sure you'd prefer not to have to pay the $3,600 difference, but in the overall scheme of things I don't think it's unreasonable. After all, you'll be getting back an airplane that's better than the one you bargained for when you bought it.

"Also keep in mind that if you get new Millenniums, no cores are required so the A&P gets back his low-time high-compression cylinders that presumably have some significant core value.

Handshake"If it were me, I think I could probably live with either the chromed reconditioned jugs or the new Millenniums. If you take the former route, you do have some risk that one or two of the reconditioned jugs will go south at some point in the future, but you also have a $3,600 "war chest" to cope with that eventuality (and that's more than enough to pay for two replacement jugs including labor). And if the reconditioned jugs do go the distance (which is not at all unlikely), you wind up money ahead. To my way of thinking, $3,600 in the bank is better than a warranty.

"Best...Mike"

I don't yet know precisely how this will all come out, but it's pretty clear that it will have a happy ending. Fred will wind up with a legal, airworthy airplane. The former owner will bear the lion's share of the cost of rectifying the mistake. No lawyers or FAA inspectors will get involved. And GA will have one more owner in command.

Way to go, Fred! I think we can all learn something from how you handled this potentially messy predicament.

Do you have a maintenance-related "war story" that you'd like to share with fellow aircraft owners? If you do, I'd love to hear from you. The most interesting stories I receive each month will be rewarded with highly prized Savvy Aviator coffee mugs, so please include your shipping address. Also be sure to let me know if you'd like me to "change the names to protect the innocent" when sharing your story.
2005-2006 Seminar Calendar

Mike has scheduled the following Savvy Owner Seminars in the next 12 months:

2005:

  • Oct 01-02 Denver (APA)
  • Oct 22-23 Frederick MD (FDK)   95% FULL
  • Oct 29-30 Atlanta (FFC)  95% FULL
  • Dec 03-04 Phoenix (PHX)
  • Dec 10-11 Los Angeles (LGB)

2006:

  • Jan 21-22 Charlotte (JQF)
  • Jan 28-29 Daytona Beach (7FL6)  70% FULL
  • Feb 11-12 Santa Maria CA (SMX)
  • Feb 25-26 Houston (HOU)
  • Mar 04-05 Memphis (MEM)
  • Mar 26-27 Las Vegas (LAS/HND/VGT)
  • May 06-07 San Diego (MYF)
  • May 20-21 Salt Lake City (SLC)

Seminar location map

Each seminar is strictly limited to a maximum of 20 to 25 participants (depending on venue). Therefore, if you're interested in attending you'd be wise to register online now to reserve your spot. You may cancel without penalty up to 30 days prior to the seminar date.

The Savvy AviatorThis unique weekend course for aircraft owners has received rave reviews from owners who have attended this program. The seminar is designed to help you make better maintenance decisions, improve your troubleshooting skills, and save you lots of money on the maintenance of your airplane. I promise you an enjoyable and enlightening weekend that will repay your investment in time and tuition many times over, year after year.

DISCOUNTS FOR PARTNERS AND GROUPS: If you sign up for one of the seminars and wish bring your spouse, aircraft partner or mechanic to take the course with you, your partner will be charged only $297.50 (limit one partner per participating aircraft owner). If you belong to (or assemble) a group of five or more aircraft owners interested in attending a course together, we can offer you a very attractive group rate. If you have ten or more interested in attending, we may be able to schedule a special seminar at your location. Please contact Mike by email or telephone to arrange group discounts and special seminars.

Seminar Notes:

  • Discounts: We offer a variety of discounts for members of sponsoring associations, for owners who wish to attend a class with their airplane partner, spouse or mechanic, and for groups of five or more who wish to attend a class together. Details can be found on the website.
     
  • Class sizes: Due to meeting room size restrictions, these classes must be limited to 20 to 25 participants. Advance reservations are required, and will be accepted on a first-come first-served basis. Most of our seminars this year have sold out well in advance of the seminar date.
     
  • PLEASE make your reservations early using the secure online sign-up procedure on the Savvy Aviator website. A $50 discount applies when you sign up at least six weeks in advance of the seminar start date, and our cancellation policy permits you to cancel at least 30 days in advance without penalty. These seminars usually fill up well in advance of the class date.  So if you're interested in attending one of the seminars, please sign up NOW even if you're not 100% sure you can make it.
New Articles and Web Site Additions

Mike BuschMy latest AVweb column is titled "The Art Of Troubleshooting." Fixing a problem is the usually the easy part of aircraft maintenance. The hard part is figuring out what's wrong. A little troubleshooting can often save you a small fortune in unneeded parts and labor.

I receive lots of emails every day asking for my advice on maintenance matters, troubleshooting tips, aircraft purchase decisions and other subjects. I'm always happy to receive such messages, and I personally respond to every one. However, I'd like to encourage you to post such questions in the Savvy Aviator interactive forums area so that other owners can benefit from your questions and my answers, and contribute to the discussion. There are forums for discussion of engines, airframes, electrical systems and other maintenance issues. I actively monitor and participate in these forums every day.

Please keep in touch using the interactive forums area or via email. I really enjoy hearing from you, and value your comments and suggestions.

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